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Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:51 pm
by Zaramnor
Hello,

it's my first try on LW2 and I'm still at the beginning.

My task is, to research an ADVENT Officer (Leader? ... playing the german version) but after many kills of ADVENT Troops of all kinds, Sectoids and even Vipers ... my inventory says: 5 ADVENT Soldier corpses ... no other corpses - nothing. And I don't get the option to research an officer ... Will I have to research something else before? And where are the corpses?

What shall I do?

Thanks

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not using other mods.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:59 pm
by Krzysztof z Bagien
You only get corpses from missions with no evacuation (the ones that end by themselvs when you complete the objective; if you place evac beacon and Skyranger picks your soldiers up - no bodies), so I guess it's a feature.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:19 pm
by Zaramnor
Hm ... so it's really hard to get corpses? Nearly all missions end per evac ...

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:08 pm
by Harlequin565
Plus you don't get corpses from blowing people up unless you take the Needle(?) grenadier perk.

So if on the few missions where you do get to keep the corpses, you blow 'em up, you still get zip. And as officers tend to take a couple of hits, it's nearly always tempting to grenade them for the guaranteed kill.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:33 pm
by azarga
Krzysztof z Bagien wrote:You only get corpses from missions with no evacuation (the ones that end by themselvs when you complete the objective; if you place evac beacon and Skyranger picks your soldiers up - no bodies), so I guess it's a feature.

I just finished mission where you defend Resistance relay, objective is to kill all enemy troops, no evac used.
Mission spawned total of 18 enemies, including 1 MEC, 3 Surv. Drones, 2 Sectoids, 1 Naja, 2 Grenadiers, 1 Officer and 8 Troopers.
I only used Frags on MEC and Sectoids, neither resulted in kills. Completed mission successfully, but still no corpses, only couple attachments.

I have 3 mods that affect loot/items in any way: Grimy's loot, enemyloot, and tactical suppressors. Might be caused by any of those, and I already saw suspicious behavior on Grimy's Loot part (decrypting lockboxes uses rare resources).

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:36 pm
by Krzysztof z Bagien
You may be right and it's possible it's a bug or some conflict with other mods. I'm just saying that AFAIK it's supposed to work the way I described.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:47 pm
by johnnylump
azarga wrote:
Krzysztof z Bagien wrote:You only get corpses from missions with no evacuation (the ones that end by themselvs when you complete the objective; if you place evac beacon and Skyranger picks your soldiers up - no bodies), so I guess it's a feature.

I just finished mission where you defend Resistance relay, objective is to kill all enemy troops, no evac used.
Mission spawned total of 18 enemies, including 1 MEC, 3 Surv. Drones, 2 Sectoids, 1 Naja, 2 Grenadiers, 1 Officer and 8 Troopers.
I only used Frags on MEC and Sectoids, neither resulted in kills. Completed mission successfully, but still no corpses, only couple attachments.

I have 3 mods that affect loot/items in any way: Grimy's loot, enemyloot, and tactical suppressors. Might be caused by any of those, and I already saw suspicious behavior on Grimy's Loot part (decrypting lockboxes uses rare resources).
Right, there's no bug there. you don't get corpses from missions where you have to defend Resistance stuff; there's some narrative on some of those missions that mentions a quick retreat with no time for cleaning up.

This is to avoid encouraging you to induce attacks on the Resistance to gather resources. You do get corpses from Troop Column ambushes, attacks on ADVENT supply units, attacks on the ADVENT regional HQs, and maybe a few others.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:23 am
by Zaramnor
I had an attack on ADVENT supply train... Got corpses and loot as intended. Everything working fine - thanks for help and clarification.

Great mod!

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:57 am
by Krakenous
You do not get any corpses on the X4 monument mission either, why? I feel like i worked really hard killing all 18 ENEMIES that came at me, destroying the monument only to get no corpses :(, that seems overly harsh. Can this be modified in the .INIs to enable which missions allow corpse collection?

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:12 pm
by Pendrako
in fairness... you know... you could just kill the officer that shows up on Gatecrasher the old fashioned way, and have that one. also, bear in mind, you're fighting a world wide war, and that territory ain't your's. you really gonna risk having XCOM's only dropship blown out of the sky for a few corpses you could get later in (relatively) safer conditions?

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:27 pm
by Krakenous
Pendrako wrote:in fairness... you know... you could just kill the officer that shows up on Gatecrasher the old fashioned way, and have that one. also, bear in mind, you're fighting a world wide war, and that territory ain't your's. you really gonna risk having XCOM's only dropship blown out of the sky for a few corpses you could get later in (relatively) safer conditions?
I don't get what you mean with the first sentence. You don't get any corpses from this mission and I killed everything with guns bar the little hover robot things. I just want to know what I need to edit in which INI files to re-enable corpses for this mission, because the way I see it, for me, this was a pretty easy mission, i held back the majority of my squad in a high position, infiltrated with a stealth unit, got squad sight on my snipers, picked most of the aliens off at a distance then as they drew closer to me, ambush overwatched fired most them as the stealth unit activated the X4 charges and boom, 18 aliens killed with only 1 minor injury and 2 scanner bot nade kills. I kinda feel i deserved the corpses lol for gatecrasher.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:31 am
by Zyrrashijn
You're confusing Operation Gatecrasher (LW2) with Operation Gatecrasher (vanilla). In LW2, Gatecrasher has nothing to do with blowing up a giant statue.

Re: Bug? Or my failure?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:25 am
by Pendrako
Yeah, it's Ambushing a troop column now, and you DO get corpses from those missions.