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What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:02 pm
by lumber-chick
Hi, Just wondering.... What is the burn chance on Flamethrower? Does it differ by target type and place of the target within the cone? Had some situations where 2-3 times in a row a unit isn't burning, can't find anywhere in the docs or online. Come to think of it, it's hugely important probability in some situations :)

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:29 pm
by faket15
The chance to apply burning to the target is 60% and the chance to apply fire to the tile is 50%. Roust has only 20% chance for both. The chance doesn't scale with Gauntlet tier.

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:35 pm
by Icarus
Assuming the tile is on fire a a target moves out of it, does he always catch on fire?

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:43 pm
by faket15
Icarus wrote:Assuming the tile is on fire a a target moves out of it, does he always catch on fire?
Yes

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:30 pm
by lumber-chick
Thank you!

So that means 2 applications of fire in a turn have 16% chance of failing (flame > command > flame). I underestimated that risk ;)

I wonder if enraged berserkers are immune to fire in terms of attacks? One just attacked my unit despite being on fire. Oh well.

Glad incendiaries are nerfed in 1.5, they made technicals laughable :)

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:37 pm
by fowlJ
Remember that unless an enemy stands still and takes and action instead of moving first (which is certainly a possibility, but many enemies try to be mobile) it's worth including the 50% chance of the tile catching fire in your calculation, since if they catch fire before doing anything it still disables their actions before they get to go - so only a 4% of two flamethrowers failing to burn either a unit or its tile, and only 20% for a single flamethrower.

Fire also does not disable melee attacks, which is why the Berserker could still attack. Same for other melee enemies as well.

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:55 pm
by lumber-chick
So stun lancers and mutons can still melee when on fire? Wow. Thanks for that.

Re: What is technical burn chance?

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:44 pm
by orion_winterfire
lumber-chick wrote:So stun lancers and mutons can still melee when on fire? Wow. Thanks for that.
Basic melee attacks are allowed, but special attacks are not. As I recall (& I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken), the stun lancer's attack falls into the latter category and can't be used while burning.