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Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:04 pm
by bingo12345
does Graze band affect Flush and Arc thrower? if so, does Graze hit make Flush and arc thrower stun work?

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:21 pm
by bingo12345
I wonder if dev cound answer this for me?

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:42 pm
by johnnylump
Off the top of my head, I think it would affect Flush but not Arc Thrower.

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:29 am
by bingo12345
johnnylump wrote:Off the top of my head, I think it would affect Flush but not Arc Thrower.
I have never missed above 80% shot of arc thrower still at graze band 20% setting.

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:13 am
by Goumindong
bingo12345 wrote:
johnnylump wrote:Off the top of my head, I think it would affect Flush but not Arc Thrower.
I have never missed above 80% shot of arc thrower still at graze band 20% setting.
Could be random. An 80% shot with a 20% graze band should be 70% hit, 20% graze iirc

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:45 am
by bingo12345
Goumindong wrote:
bingo12345 wrote:
johnnylump wrote:Off the top of my head, I think it would affect Flush but not Arc Thrower.
I have never missed above 80% shot of arc thrower still at graze band 20% setting.
Could be random. An 80% shot with a 20% graze band should be 70% hit, 20% graze iirc
80% in 20% graze band setting is 60% hit and 40% graze

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:25 am
by LordYanaek
Reminds me that i have seen some strange 1 damage on alien transmitters which means they can also probably be "grazed" despite being immobile auto-hit structures. :?

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:27 am
by JLtheking
LordYanaek wrote:Reminds me that i have seen some strange 1 damage on alien transmitters which means they can also probably be "grazed" despite being immobile auto-hit structures. :?
I, too, was wondering about this. Does this mean that relays have a 10% to be grazed?

Re: Graze band affects Flush and Arc thrower?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:11 am
by LordYanaek
That's what i expect. Probably those structures are fixed to 100% to hit chance, but then grazing band turns the lower 10% (or whatever value you specify) into a graze. I guess grenades and other auto-hits abilities can also graze. I've never seen a combat protocol graze but i think i had a grenade graze early in the campaign before i knew what the graze band was.

Whether this is a design choice or an oversight, i can't tell. It would be good to know for sure which abilities can graze and which ones can't.