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1. Can a soldier get a perk on the AWC that is available in their standard soldier skill tree?
2. If yes, does that prevent the soldier from training that skill on the soldier tree?

AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

Thanks, good to know.

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

This is not true unless 'commanders choice' is confusing the mechanics. I have people who have AWC abilities from their normal skill tree which means I was able to pick a different skill from the regular tree which was really nice since it would have been a toss up between the 2 anyway. So now I can benefit from both! Yey!

UrzuS3V3N wrote:

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

This is not true unless 'commanders choice' is confusing the mechanics. I have people who have AWC abilities from their normal skill tree which means I was able to pick a different skill from the regular tree which was really nice since it would have been a toss up between the 2 anyway. So now I can benefit from both! Yey!

most likely the soldier is getting leveled up and granted a AWC list based on a class before you choose which class they should get. This should be a bug that the 2 mods should sort out how to have the choice happen before the AWC list is generated.

UrzuS3V3N wrote:

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

This is not true unless 'commanders choice' is confusing the mechanics. I have people who have AWC abilities from their normal skill tree which means I was able to pick a different skill from the regular tree which was really nice since it would have been a toss up between the 2 anyway. So now I can benefit from both! Yey!

Commander's Choice is indeed doing so. The AWC picks from perks not available to the class the character rolled. They are not reselected if you change the soldier's class.

Mavoc wrote:

UrzuS3V3N wrote:

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

This is not true unless 'commanders choice' is confusing the mechanics. I have people who have AWC abilities from their normal skill tree which means I was able to pick a different skill from the regular tree which was really nice since it would have been a toss up between the 2 anyway. So now I can benefit from both! Yey!

most likely the soldier is getting leveled up and granted a AWC list based on a class before you choose which class they should get. This should be a bug that the 2 mods should sort out how to have the choice happen before the AWC list is generated.

In a way I wish it would be fixed because most of my AWC skills are irrelevant to the classes I have chisen... but then again... on the rare occasions they do overlap and it's a good skill... it's nice to have 2 nice skills from the same rank.

Either way... I'm not overly fussed.

Devon_v wrote:Commander's Choice is indeed doing so. The AWC picks from perks not available to the class the character rolled. They are not reselected if you change the soldier's class.

Commander's Choice was recently updated to address this. It now works by promoting Rookies in the Armory to a specific class and they will get the proper set of AWC perks for that class.

I have one sniper with "lethal" as his tier 3 offensive perk and if im remembering correctly isnt that one of his tier 8 class perks? If so i think its possible.

Kizaray wrote:I have one sniper with "lethal" as his tier 3 offensive perk and if im remembering correctly isnt that one of his tier 8 class perks? If so i think its possible.

Lethal is an Assault skill in LW2 at Master Sergeant rank. No other LW2 soldier class has it.

Ahhh okay. Im away from my computer and couldnt check. Thanks for the correction.

The MSGT sniper perk is Alpha Mike Foxtrot (maybe someone with knowledge in the military can explain the name ) and gives +4 damage instead of +2 for Lethal.

LordYanaek wrote:The MSGT sniper perk is Alpha Mike Foxtrot (maybe someone with knowledge in the military can explain the name ) and gives +4 damage instead of +2 for Lethal.

I don't think it's miltary per se but it's a quote from the movie "The A-Team"

I don't even know what this movie is, but probably the french title doesn't look like "équipe a"

LordYanaek wrote:I don't even know what this movie is, but probably the french title doesn't look like "équipe a"

"L'agence tous risques" from the looks of it

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

I'm curious to see how that may change in 1.2. From the patch notes:

- AWC cross-training restrictions reconfigured to exclusively use perk triggers (rather than currently bugged class restrictions). Should see a lot more options open up for training.

So does that mean we will see AWC rolling perks in our class trees? How will that interact with hidden L2/L3 perks? Will each class have a catered list?

NoDebate wrote:

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

I'm curious to see how that may change in 1.2. From the patch notes:

- AWC cross-training restrictions reconfigured to exclusively use perk triggers (rather than currently bugged class restrictions). Should see a lot more options open up for training.

So does that mean we will see AWC rolling perks in our class trees? How will that interact with hidden L2/L3 perks? Will each class have a catered list?

Actually they'd just updating the system on how it doesn't awards perks in your tree. Right now if they are locked by class the perk will not show in the AWC period, so instead they're making some perks that were class locked be instead locked by perks that only show in certain classes

NoDebate wrote:

JulianSkies wrote:AWC will not in fact award a perk that is already in their skill tree.

I'm curious to see how that may change in 1.2. From the patch notes:

- AWC cross-training restrictions reconfigured to exclusively use perk triggers (rather than currently bugged class restrictions). Should see a lot more options open up for training.

So does that mean we will see AWC rolling perks in our class trees? How will that interact with hidden L2/L3 perks? Will each class have a catered list?

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