Not-Created-Equally, Difficulty bias.

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Tac1
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Not-Created-Equally, Difficulty bias.

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Quick question on a recent observation. I went back to Rookie difficulty after a few campaigns on Commander, to mess around with squad comps and perks, and I began to notice NCE acting seemingly off. Every Rookie campaign had their Defense more 'unflawed'. I found troops with lows and highs in aim, health, and mobility, but nobody every dipped below -3 Defense, with most cases having at least some positive defense and a few going as high as +10.

Moved back to Commander, and I started constantly noticing up to 60% of my roster having between -5 and -10 defense, with enormous consistency. This pattern managed to continue for eight separate restarts, with the ninth and final go being an exception.

Is this actually a 'thing' or just queer random chance on my side?
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Re: Not-Created-Equally, Difficulty bias.

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I started more than 150 new campaigns.
If you roll negative defense you rolled negative defense.
Only Will and Psi roll is somehow normal. Everything else usually roll similar.
I have 2/3 of barracks 3 HP - best roll possible
Why ?

I have two 18 mobility and two 75 aim in low HP roll .
Average Aim is 65 ( never rolled that high)

Restart campaign 100 times for better results.

BTW Stats for Rookie difficulty is boosted
+5 Aim (I think) and will is boosted etc etc
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Re: Not-Created-Equally, Difficulty bias.

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Rookie gives +10 Aim, not sure about the Will though. I know Rookie difficulty cheats in your favour as it is, but I'm curious if it has some limit on certain rolls going into 'negative', as well.
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No. They have more stats to swap

From toolbox for example

;stat swaps are used to configure offsets for initial stats. Note that all swaps can be "reversed" with the StatDown value increasing and the StatUp decreasing
+STAT_SWAPS=(StatUp=eStat_Offense, StatUp_Amount=1, StatDown=eStat_Defense, StatDown_Amount=2, Weight=1.5f)

Max number of swaps is 16 . Weigh is chance for that swap. If there is more Aim defense can go up (1.5f =150%) there is "more chance" for that swap.

;These are the max allowed deltas for each stat type
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Offense, Min=-10, Max=10)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Defense, Min=-10, Max=10)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Dodge, Min=-15, Max=15)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Will, Min=-15, Max=15)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Hacking, Min=-4, Max=15)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_HP, Min=-1, Max=3)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Mobility, Min=-2, Max=3)
+STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_PsiOffense, Min=-15, Max=15)

You can fill more defense when Aim is high.
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Re: Not-Created-Equally, Difficulty bias.

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playing on rookie difficulty for a few times and i can tell you that I am used to come across rookies as high aim as 83 and as low defense as -10 (with about -7 dodge, never saw -15 dodge solider)
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It is not -15 dodge. Default dodge is 5 .
5 - 15 = -10 - min dodge
5 + 15= 20 -mad max dodge

Default aim is 65 +10 or -10
HP is 4 (-1 / +3 )( 7 HP rookie is worst rookie that you can get)
Defense is 0 (-10 / +10)
Will is 25 (-15 / +15)
Hacking 5 (-4 / +15)
Mobility 15 (-2 / +3)
PsiOffense 25 (-15 / +15)
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thanks for clarification.
but i also wanna know, if I set the difficulity to non-rookie mid-campaign, will all solider get -10 aim immediately after the change?
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Yes.
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Post by SonnyWiFiHr »

Really.?
I had plans to start on Rookie and have great time (rookies).
Bad. I will instead save scum scientists
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