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Hidden Armer on Objects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:33 am
by oesis
Some attackable targets, like data taps, and exploding barrels cannot be missed. However sometimes I notice my soldiers dealing damage to them outside of the weapons damage range. IE a 3-5 weapon dealing 2 to a gas tank. So the only thing I can think is that there are hidden grazes or hidden armor. Does anyone know why soldiers sometimes deal less damage to these targets.

Re: Hidden Armer on Objects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:53 am
by fowlJ
I believe it is typically thought to be the graze band - you have a 100% chance to hit them, so with the default graze setting that would be a 10% chance to graze them for half damage instead of hitting them normally.

I'm not 100% sure that that is the real reason, but it seems a pretty likely explanation.

Re: Hidden Armer on Objects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:23 am
by nmkaplan
I have occasionally heard my soldiers pipe up with "right on the margins!" or one of the other graze responses when this happens. I don't know if anyone on the LW2 team has ever acknowledged that this is what is happening (though it's been brought up in the past), but it's almost certainly a side-effect of the graze band.

I suspect that if you turned the graze band off, you wouldn't see the behavior anymore.

Re: Hidden Armer on Objects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:02 am
by oesis
If that is the case, maybe these targets should show 100%, instead of no aim at all. Since not showing aim implies its guaranteed damage like combat protocol. Where as 100% would make sense with graze band. Still I personally would prefer if there wasn't grazes on these objects at all.

Re: Hidden Armer on Objects

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:45 am
by JulianSkies
I do believe PI has acknowledged it as a bug, you're not supposed to graze on those targets but due to the way the graze band was implemented it is possible.