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Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:08 pm
by johnnylump
https://xcom.com/news/xcom-2-long-war-2 ... on-coilgun

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The artist on these is the renowned Chris "Capnbubs" Mansell, who also did our laser weapons.

I can answer questions about this part of LW2 here, so ask away.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:21 pm
by luinthoron
How do these line up with your existing laser weapons? Before, after, or replacing them entirely?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:23 pm
by johnnylump
The laser tier moves to between conventional and magnetic. Coil will go between magnetic and beam/plasma.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:26 pm
by Krylos
That feels right, very much like LW for EW.

Do the weapon tiers have different characteristics other than just better damage? Like different armor pierce values/ aim bonuses/ crit bonuses/ mag sizes and so on?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:29 pm
by Badman_bacon777
Can you show us images of all variants of Coil weapons?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:30 pm
by johnnylump
Lasers will get an aim bonus. Coil gets an armor piercing bonus. Plasma gets unique bonuses tied to the weapon.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:31 pm
by thuiop
First of all, I'm really hyped with LW2 (although I don't have as much time to play as before).
About this new tier of weapon : so it will be between mag and ... laser as I understood. Will there be the same weapons as in the other tier ? i.e will there be the full coil sniper, rifle, pistol, scatter gun, ... (an SMG of course) ? And I suppose adding a new tier of weapon implies the campaign will be longer (surprise!), so when in the campaign will we be able to get a hand on these weapons (in term of events)? And does that mean that laser/plasma will become a really late-campaign tier of weapon ?
I still want to thank you for your work, it looks very cool !

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:33 pm
by johnnylump
@ Badman_Bacon

I'll find out.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:34 pm
by Krylos
Sweet. Are weapons individual items again or are they squad wide upgrades like in vanilla X2?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:36 pm
by johnnylump
Individually built.

@thuiop: Laser is moving to 2nd tier, between CV and magnetic.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:54 pm
by thuiop
OK then we have cv-laser-mag-coil-plasma then.
Coming back to individual building for weapons seems like a great choice to me, I think it makes more sense and it adds more management of the resources, so good call !

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:05 pm
by rakoon79
johnnylump wrote:Individually built.
@johnnylump , is that for ALL weapons and armors? or coilgun-specific? or are we not there yet in terms of nda?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:07 pm
by Krylos
Sorry for all these questions: Do the coil guns have new custom sounds?

And I guess you can't answer any questions about armor tiers?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:14 pm
by johnnylump
They have unique sounds. I think we remixed some base-game stuff to get them.

Detailed questions about armor and overall inventory probably goes beyond what I can talk about at this stage, but in most cases, yes, we've shifted away from schematics and to individual building of stuff.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:17 pm
by Arantir
Sounds great, love the design! Are there any chances that we'll see any additional weapon types appart from SMG in LW2 (i.e. carbines, strike rifles, etc.)? If it's not the case (which is understandable) are there any plans to adress the functionalities of additional LW guns via weapon parts?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:29 pm
by johnnylump
Coil is getting an SMG, but we're not adding carbines or battle rifles. We have made some changes to weapon addons. Between those and all the various ammo types, there isn't as much space for carbines and battle rifles to have a unique role, so we directed our resources toward other things.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:31 pm
by Yopt(bI)4
LW1 have special types of ammo for different tier weapons (like laser capasitors mags, ballistic reaper ammo and other stuff).
Can we see something like this in LW2?
(Sorry for bad english)

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:42 pm
by johnnylump
The various ammo types will work across all weapons.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:45 pm
by sl_andy
I assume that this means weapon attachments are removable or will you be able to directly upgrade upgraded weapons?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:02 pm
by ZaWarudoWRYYY
did you make SPARKs variants weapons for laser and coil tier?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:04 pm
by johnnylump
@sl_andy -- Getting out of scope for today, sorry.

Did not make Spark variants. Only so much we can do.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:14 pm
by XCOMrades
Sounds good!
When can we expect a new bit of intel about this mod? And what about the release date, if it is a correct question?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:20 pm
by johnnylump
Definitely can't talk about those, sorry. Stay tuned is the best I can do.

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:27 pm
by Musashi
First of all thank you all for your great work. Count me in on the hype train :lol:

As a modder i am primarily interested in changes i need to make to my mods in order to make the compatible to LW2 but i think this would get out of scope of the q/a.

So here is the one question that is in scope:
Are there also new melee weapons for the new weapon tiers?

Re: Long War 2 feature announce: Coil weapons

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:28 pm
by Badman_bacon777
So there's no Spark variants to your mods, but will there be new weapons of the laser and coil tier regardless of cosmetic for SPARKS? Same question for Alien Hunter weapons.