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JL, The fatigue "system" wasn't implemented in anyway beyond a couple functions that have the word "fatigue" in them. From what I could tell from digging around in LW code was that the system was designed entirely by you and the other modders that worked with you on the project. ...

To put things more simply, I'm sure that since JL and the others read the forums regularly that they do draw some inspiration from things said/posted but it's just as likely that they don't always know if inspiration for a given concept/idea is their own, from the forums/fans, or somewhere in between.

Fatigue System Currently, the fatigue system works in that if a soldier is tired after a mission, they must take a risk if they go on another mission which could result in them gaining a negative trait. The amount of fatigue a soldier gains during a mission seems to be mostly random. I know it is b...

Not quite. 2K hired us to make Long War 2 and other mods and the rights to it are theirs. They gave us a great deal of freedom to design how we chose, although I'm sure if we'd gone off the rails and tried to put in, I dunno, explicit material, they would have probably stepped in, but it wasn't a b...

I've had abit of a change of heart in some respects. Stemming from how content i am with LW 1.5. If there is no WoTC update for Longwar so be it. The game is in a more than acceptable state right now and while the expansion content and engine tweaks would be welcomed, its by no means a deal breaker...

Have patience, there's always other games to play, or indeed, other hobbies to enjoy. IF LWoTC is indeed being developed, 2K is likely monitoring sales figures to time an announcement with a die down in sales, in order to renew interest once that happens. That's part of the problem I personally hav...

Let's steer this away from arguing about arguing and get back to the topic of, uh, nothing to announce. Criticizing LW2 and WotC is fine; criticizing each other doesn't really help anything. Apologies, didn't see this before posting my last response, very well put and I'm glad that you guys are ope...

I'm all for discussion, I just had a gripe with you judging people for their choice not to buy the expansion. Felt more like "utter intolerance" for me making a simple observation. In fact after rereading everything since I joined the discussion you seem to be the only one taking [serious...

I would also really love a standalone squad menu mod. After LW2, the base game feels empty without it. I gave up on the bondmate BS a few weeks in. It is a nightmare trying to remember the pairs. However, if they were assigned to the same squad, it would be easy. That is probably the one thing that...

Rampaging around with minimal infiltration is one way around gear micromanagement but you haven't sold this specific use of Covert Ops to me. With this level of ambiguity in the proposal, there's too many interpretations that are bad. Well it wasn't necessarily me trying to sell anything but rather...

Yeah I was already wondering where I told him he was missing the point. Ok so that's why. That's what happens when I reply without quoting I have conceded that the more ways the game can be enjoyed the better. Those that enjoy the pacing and flow of the "casual" vanilla xcom2 now have an ...

When it comes to people's decisions about wanting to wait for Long War before buying WotC I can 100% understand why (even as someone who has both bought and is currently enjoying WotC). I don't think it is bad stance to have and quite honestly I almost said the same. Here are a few reasons why. I c...

On one hand you say, to each their own, and then you display utter intolerance towards people deciding against buying a game you like. Stop it. It's annoying, and it's not your call to make. If you'd like to help firaxis, take a job in their marketing department. Just stop telling other people what...

Surprised this has only been focused around Fatigue and Infiltration without considering the other thing that is extremely similar and could be used to mesh the two opposing systems, Covert Ops. I mean Covert Ops are essentially Infiltration but on random issues that usually don't end up with a miss...

What i do have an issue with is someone trying to guilt trip others into buying an expansion. I'm simply sharing my thoughts and disappointment with the attitude I've seen toward, "No WotC without LW2 compatibility" in an open forum. I have no intention of guilting anyone into doing anyth...

I think your missing the point, I'm simply stating that if Firaxis has brought the Longwar team in on the initial development the base game may have become something akin to what we now know as LongWar2. Quite the contrary actually, I get your point entirely and want to point out that if they broug...

The thought of going back to the vanilla experience is far more of a negative in my mind over anything the WoTC expansion can overcome. Firaxis should have thrown the cash at the Pavonis team and brought them inhouse for the duration of xcom2s development .. Then they surely would have my money for...

And when I can have long war 2 for no additional cost Makes perfect sense, though there are other great mods out as well have you tried any of them out? 9 out of 10 people tell me LW2 is more entertaining than WotC I haven't seen that in any way, shape or form. It's likely just the people you talk ...

At the same time, having it as is allows you another alternative to leveling new soldiers without putting the vital mission on the line. Also there is somewhat of limitations and considerations to make, some Ops require higher ranked soldiers. Thought it would be fun to see a mod take this concept a...

I agree, Pavonis did some amazing work on Long War 2 and it's always great to see fans showing their support of that. I would love to see the standalone mods by Pavonis get officially ported over to WotC, at least, even if there is never a reworked version of Long War for it. Though I must admit I w...

I don't think it's hostile to say that there are conditions I want to be met before I buy a game. That's my right as a Customer. Making conscious, informed decisions is the most Moral Thing to do, everywhere, always. No Need to let your pants down just because someone didn't fuck you over. I apprec...

The only thing that concerns me - is the balance. I mean complete luck of balance compare to LW. Others that aren't as great at XCom as you would say the exact opposite, that balance in LW2 is horrendous compared to the vanilla experience. Keep in mind not everyone is looking for the hardcore exper...

Covert OPS would be much more fun if it always ends up with the real mission like in EW. For now it looks like: "send your 1-2 soldeirs + sci/eng/supp/intel to aviod capture/injure risk there, wait for a 6-10 days and get your reward". Even ambush seems like the same all times (I had 4 of...

Honestly WotC feels much more planned out than LW2 was, might get some scrutiny here but it makes sense in the terms of how many people are on each respective team. Fatigue in LW1, great mechanic to tie up soldiers so you have to rotate, didn't make any sense Infiltration in LW2, great mechanic to t...

Wow, it's actually really really sad to see this attitude, but I guess to each their own. Without Firaxis there would not have been a Long War in the first place and WotC is an incredible experience, such hostility toward it is shocking to me. The claims that it isn't as enjoyable as Long War 2 to m...